[BBLISA] I need a colocation for 10 or perhaps 12 1U machines

Dean Anderson dean at av8.com
Wed Dec 1 21:31:37 EST 2004


I'm just stating a fact.  Surely a US Federal Court opinion isn't a rant.

The people listed on Vixie's personal web site are his "friends", and
often either share his views, or simply don't question his views. Its
probably safe to assume that anyone that disagrees with Vixie won't go on
that list.  Surely this isn't a rant.

Av8 is not on that list, and he falsely tells people I stole IP address
space through SORBS. This is another fact. No rant there, either.

So what do you think is a rant?

As I got a bounce from your address saying our IP addresses were hijacked,
I note that you are also using his "new MAPS" (SORBS.NET). It would /seem/
that you have an axe to grind, using such an abusive blacklist, unless you
are just ignorant of its non-spam activities---which is a real
possibility---most of its users are unaware, so I apologize in advance for
assuming you already know of them.

<sean at rentul.net>
    (reason: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [130.105.36.66] blocked 
using zombie.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Hijacked/Disused
Netblock See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?130.105.36.66)

You can check ARIN records on this block. The OSF still exists as The Open
Group. It is a customer of Av8 Internet.  One can't hijack space from a
company that still exists. Also lookup 198.3.136/21 on SORBS and ARIN. One
can't hijack space from oneself.  If a "rant" is an outrageous assertion,
then it would seem that it is SORBS that is doing the ranting and raving,
not to mention defaming, misleading and lying.

Assuming you are unaware of the abusive nature of SORBS, I'll explain that
SORBS (Vixie, Matthew Sullivan, and Alan Brown formerly of ORBS.ORG)
falsely claims our IP address space is stolen.  (198.3.136/21 and
130.105/16).  Brown has lost 3 lawsuits over his false statements before,
but hasn't learned that lying is bad. Vixie was also successfully sued for
using MAPS to block a non-spam site.  Vixie also knows better, and now has
poor (as in no assets) college student Matthew Sullivan setup to take any
legal heat for SORBS.  SORBS was booted from XO before getting service
from Vixie at ISC.ORG for engaging in defamatory activities in violation
of its AUP.  Strangely, (given Vixie's strenous claims that everyone
should have an AUP), ISC has no AUP.

You can see some more information at www.iadl.org.

		--Dean



On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Sean Lutner wrote:

>   The list of personal colocation providers maintained by Mr. Vixie are 
> in no way that I know of associated with him, he is just keeping a 
> list. I offered the list as a potential suggestion, and hoped that 
> maybe it would help Dima.
> 
> I don't think I or anyone else on this list needed to see a rant such 
> as that. Your personal battles with people that stem from other mailing 
> lists are really off topic, and rather unnecessary.
> 
> Thanks
> Sean
> 
> On Dec 1, 2004, at 5:13 PM, Dean Anderson wrote:
> 
> > FYI: Vixie (and the Vixie crowd) don't think that the ECPA (Electronic
> > Communication Privacy Act) applies to the internet. They chased me off
> > Nanog some years ago for asserting that it did apply to ISPs.  They 
> > think
> > they can read your email without penalty.  There are several court 
> > cases
> > in addition to the text of the statute and the associated Congression
> > Reports specifically describing email as a subject of the law, that
> > indicate that Vixie's group is wrong.  But they've never repented.
> >
> > Last year, an ISP was found to be reading it customers email for it own
> > commercial benefits--From what I understand, it was reading customers
> > email and then contacting people its customers were doing business 
> > with.
> > It was charged with a criminal violation of the Wiretap Act. This was 
> > an
> > error on part of the prosecutor and it resulted in them not being 
> > charged
> > with an ECPA violation:
> >
> > http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/pdf.opinions/03-1383-01A.pdf
> >
> > Count 1: Conspiracy to violate 18 USC 2511. Court dismissed this count 
> > on
> > the grounds that email is in "electronic storage", and cannot be
> > "intercepted" under the meaning of '2511.  I agree. But this does not 
> > mean
> > that a violation of 18 USC 2701 has not occurred. As I suspected, the
> > defendant was not charged with a violation of 18 USC 2701.
> >
> > The defendant argues that his acts were lawful under the ECPA but the
> > Court does not address this argument, noting on page 16:
> >
> >   "Defendant's argument takes us beyond the charges in the Indictment.
> >   Therefore, we need not stray beyond the text of the Wiretap Act into 
> > the
> >   Stored Communications Act because the government sought to indict
> >   defendant only for conspiracy to violate Title I, 18 U.S.C. S 
> > 2511(a)"
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Sean Lutner wrote:
> >
> >> You may also wish to look over http://www.vix.com/personalcolo/
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 27, 2004, at 1:39 AM, Dima wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi, there,
> >>>
> >>> Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
> >>>
> >>> Can somebody please help me with my colocation
> >>> needs? It's me and again, I know. Sorry.
> >>>
> >>> I finally found a good cluster, consisting from 10
> >>> 1U dual Opterons. When I tried to find a home for
> >>> this cluster, I was surprised to see extremely
> >>> high prices for even modest U intervals. It almost
> >>> looks like 42U costs more than 42x1U. And it comes
> >>> with only 20 Amps of power.
> >>>
> >>> I was wondering if somebody can direct me towards
> >>> good colocation shop. I don't need anything
> >>> special. I just need to work on this cluster
> >>> before it will go in production. My house will not
> >>> survive power load.
> >>>
> >>> If you know any not-so-expensive colocation shop -
> >>> please send me a name or URL or phone number.
> >>>
> >>> Please!!!
> >>>
> >>> --------------
> >>>
> >>> Dimitri (Dima) Shcherban
> >>>
> >>>               Phone: 800-445-2588+3+36955
> >>>                  or: 508-898-6955
> >>>     Westborough ext: [823]-36955
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >> Sean Lutner               | www: http://www.rentul.net
> >> e-mail: sean at rentul.net   | gpg: http://www.rentul.net/sean.sig
> >>
> >> "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
> >>
> >
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