[BBLISA] Database education? (fwd)

[Dean Anderson]

On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Tabor J. Wells wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 06:30:09PM -0400,
> Dean Anderson <dean at av8.com> is thought to have said:
> 
> > Umm, this caught my attention:
> > 
> > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.9 required=5.0 
> > tests=NO_EXPERIENCE,RCVD_IN_SORBS,
> >         RCVD_IN_SORBS_ZOMBIE autolearn=no version=2.63
> > 
> > It seems you are using SORBS as a blacklist. Be advised that SORBS is
> > /not/ an anti-spam list, but a personal revenge list. It claims
> > (willfully) that all of Av8 Internet's address space is hijacked.  Of
> > course, ARIN has a different and authoritative report, and genuine lists
> > of hijacked address space also do not include the Av8 space.
> 
> C'mon Dean. You can claim that it is your space but your own ARIN records
> below show the somewhat, shall we say, cloudy history of this net block.

There is no cloudy history.  And SORBS also lists 198.3.136/21 which has 
been transfered to Av8. Your defense of SORBS is less than credible.

> Just because you managed to get the postal address changed before ARIN was 
> more strict about checking netblock ownership rights doesn't mean you own the 
> block. If you truly did, you would have managed to get that pesky organization 
> name changed to AV8.

Nonsense. I didn't change anything, "before ARIN became more strict", and 
you so dishonestly claim.

> http://www.fact-index.com/o/op/open_software_foundation.html
> http://www.fact-index.com/t/th/the_open_group.html
> http://www.theopengroup.org/

Your links show nothing to support your point, but rather support my 
point: The OSF still operates, and still has an office in Boston, idiot.

> is the real owner of the netblock in question and its disingenious of you to

And the real owner is a customer of Av8 and has assigned it to us. It is
disingenous and defamatory to claim otherwise.

> claim that SORBS is revenge listing you. Or perhaps you'd like to clear up
> why such a small ISP as yours has managed to get a /16 that was allocated to
> OSF? Perhaps you're claiming you are the OSF now? If you could make that
> claim you would have been able to give ARIN the documentation necessary to
> show that ownership of 130.105.0.0/16 passed to you and get the OrgName
> changed.

The orgname, as you can see, hasn't been changed. The organization, as 
your links show, is still in existance.  And the organization, being a 
customer of Av8 Internet's, certainly hasn't complained to anyone, nor are 
they about to. Their attorney has forwarded me the defamatory letter sent 
"anonymously" by Kai Schlichting, another nutjob.

		--Dean